Well, another day, another dummy! I guess just when we thought we saw it all, we ain't seen nuttin yet. When will this idiot get it through his thick skull that our country was founded on Christian principles and a few words here and there are not really going to kill him? Damned if I can figure out what the big deal is to these asswipes. I found this on AOL. You can follow this link to see it for yourselves if you have the stomach for it.
A number of atheists and non-religious organizations want Barack Obama's inauguration ceremony to leave out all references to God and religion.
In a lawsuit filed Tuesday in Washington, the plaintiffs demand that the words "so help me God" not be added to the end of the president's oath of office.
In addition, the lawsuit objects to plans for ministers to deliver an invocation and a benediction in which they may discuss God and religion.
An advance copy of the lawsuit was posted online by Michael Newdow, a California doctor and lawyer who has filed similar and unsuccessful suits over inauguration ceremonies in 2001 and 2005.
Joining Newdow in the suit are groups advocating religious freedom or atheism, including the American Humanist Association, the Freedom from Religion Foundation and atheist groups from Minnesota; Seattle, Washington; and Florida.
The new lawsuit says in part, "There can be no purpose for placing 'so help me God' in an oath or sponsoring prayers to God, other than promoting the particular point of view that God exists."
Newdow said references to God during inauguration ceremonies violate the Constitution's ban on the establishment of religion.
Newdow and other plaintiffs say they want to watch the inaugural either in person or on television. As atheists, they contend, having to watch a ceremony with religious components will make them feel excluded and stigmatized.
"Plaintiffs are placed in the untenable position of having to choose between not watching the presidential inauguration or being forced to countenance endorsements of purely religious notions that they expressly deny," according to the lawsuit.
Among those named in the lawsuit are Chief Justice of the United States John Roberts, who is expected to swear in the new president; the Presidential Inauguration Committee; the Joint Congressional Committee on Inauguration Ceremonies and its chairwoman, Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California; and the Armed Forces Inaugural Committee and its commander, Maj. Gen. Richard Rowe Jr.
The two ministers scheduled to participate in the ceremony also are named: the Rev. Rick Warren and the Rev. Joseph Lowery. The document includes a quotation from Warren on atheists: "I could not vote for an atheist because an atheist says, 'I don't need God.' "
Newdow told CNN that he didn't name President-elect Barack Obama in the suit because in addition to participating as a government official at the ceremony, he possesses rights as an individual that allow him to express religious beliefs.
"If he chooses to ask for God's help, I'm not going to challenge him," Newdow said. "I think it's unwise."
Newdow said that as a member of a racial minority, Obama should have respect for atheists, who also are members of a minority.
Newdow said religious references in the inauguration ceremony send a message to non-believers.
"The message here is, we who believe in God are the righteous, the real Americans," he said.
Newdow said it's unconstitutional to imply that atheists and others are not as good.
He acknowledged that his suit is unlikely to be successful.
"I have no doubt I'll lose," he said, adding that he hoped to eventually succeed through appeals and hoped future inauguration ceremonies would exclude religious references.
Notice that he doesn't DARE to name the messiah in his stupid lawsuit. God forbid, can't do that, now can we? Hey nimwit, you said "we who believe in God are the righteous, the real Americans", not me. But it is the only part you got right!
This is the same asswipe that has been trying to kill God in our schools, in our pledge, on our money, and any other government setting he can. I found a rather interesting site that has some good dirt on our God-hating jerk. Here is a little sample:
"Michael Newdow, an atheist, said that the pledge harmed his daughter's First Amendment rights because she had to 'watch and listen as her state-employed teacher in her state-run school leads her classmates in a ritual proclaiming that there is a God, and that ours is one nation under God.'"
Breaking revelations surrounding the case have led people to question the legitimacy of Newdow's suit. Based on information obtained by CPI News, a startling new fact has been unearthed regarding the personal opinions of Michael Newdow's daughter and her mother. According to information, the man who filed the legal suit in June did so against the wishes of his daughter and her mother, both of which identify themselves as Christians and attend a Calvary Chapel.
This new development suggests the possibility that the court's decision was based on fraudulent facts. Michael A. Newdow claimed that reciting the Pledge violated his daughter's constitutional rights, and made her uncomfortable.
15 comments:
Atheism needs to be treated as another religion, which is what it is, with the same rights and limitations as any other.
Athiests have just as might a right to be offended as Christians AA. I fully support this right even though it is not expressly defined in the Constitution. May God Bless You Sir. But just in case, may Allah, Vishnu, Baal, Thor, Odin, Quetzlcoatulus, Amon, Zeus, and the Earth Mother bless you also.
Each time I hear of one of the these minorities who are having their rights abridged I am reminded of the old saying" There are no athiests in foxholes". I was going to add some unpleasant words that would accomplish nothing...So I restrained myself....stay well.....
"When will this idiot get it through his thick skull that our country was founded on Christian principles...."
He won't, ever. If he is so upset about the presence of God, then he should piss off to somewhere like Europe, China or Russia where the state is free of the God he hates so much.
It's BS that he's offended by the mere mention of God. That's just an excuse to foist his own ideology upon the majority.
By his stupid logic, if references to God were taken out so that he can stop having nightmares, then i can sue saying that i'm offended by the lack of reference to God. I'm offended but the reference to nothing.
Militant atheists are like militant gays, give them an inch and they'll never stop wanting more and more.
Shoprat,
I agree with you about atheism.
I've also come to believe that global warming is like a religion as well, lol.
as good as you are, I simply can't read this blog piece. And I can't look at that guy's picture.
I love how people will support an atheists rights when 85% of Americans say they DO believe in God. is this a 'tyranny of the minority' we should be so tolerant of? It's insane. So, we get rid of everything with God on it because 85% of us want it there but a small percentage don't?
WOW.
Michael Newdow is an absolute pest. Absolutely misguided secular fanatic extremist nutcase.
another day another nutcase!!
It's Michael Newdow. He's from Elk Grove, CA. It's a formerly rich community now given and riven with newly-installed black and Asian gangbangers and other "lesser human" interests that he couldn't care less about.
He lied about his daughter's objection to the pledge of allegiance, he's lying now and he'll be lying in the future no matter what he does. His sole objection is ANY form of ANY religion ANYWHERE AROUND HIM.
It GRATES so on his nerves.
I saw him one time at a nearby mall and, recognizing his photo, went OUT of my way to walk up to him in July and say "MERRY CHRISTMAS, Mike," as loud as I could.
He's a despoiler. He's rich, privileged, arrogant, and has the time and money to be an irritant. People with REAL jobs have other tasks to take care of.
Like, Mike: your family. Oh, that's right, you got a DIVORCE, didn't you, you pompous fuck?
You don't HAVE a family, do you, Michael Newdow? Gotta BEG your EX-wife to visit your daughter, eh Mike?
BZ
These fools have no right to force the president to say or not say "so help me God."
The First Amendment trumps his right not to be offended.
Grrrr!
Funny, I thought the Constitution only forbade CONGRESS from making laws respecting establishment of religion.... The oath of office is IN THE CONSTITUTION and obviously not a law from Congress. It is up to BHO if he wants to say it or not, which he acknowledges and won't assert his "rights" against BHO, but he's included anyone and everyone from the Chief Justice on down - who will not force BHO to speak these words or even to use a Bible.
It amazes me that fools like this continue to throw around how it is "unconstitutional" to have God on our money or in our pledge or any other avenue we choose - when his assertions are incontrovertibly MORE unconstitutional by forcing Congress into creating laws that prohibit the majority's free exercise thereof. This makes sense... HOW?
This man needs a Haldol injection, stat. Maybe two. And a room with softly padded walls. Oh, and a super-long-sleeve jacket.
Atheists have nothing to fear, when Obama talks about "Almighty God" he is usually referring to himself.
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Shoprat, that makes sense. Their belief is that their is no supreme being to believe in.
Truth, they have a right to be offended, but that does not translate into the right to completely do away with anything to do with religion.
Tapline, you got that right, just ask anyone who has actually been in a fox hole, or shot at.
MK, I learned a long time ago that there are people who can not find happiness unless they are bitching about something.
C.H., global warming is not a religion, it's a cult!
Z, I can't say as I blame you. It is sickening.
Wordsmith, now tell me what you REALLY think about him.
Angel, yes indeedy! They just keep popping out from under those darned rocks.
PCC, be careful, as mad as he is, he probably has rabies.
BZ, Oh you lucky guy, you actually know this chump?! Doesn't that just make you feel so special? I laughed like hell when you wrote that you wished him a Merry Christmas. That had to have fried his ass!
Brooke, I am quite sure that the oath has to be given verbatim and I also believe that "so help me God" is part of it. NObama has no choice but to repeat it, if he wants to be President.
Allee, "....And a room with softly padded walls. Oh, and a super-long-sleeve jacket...." so considerate of you. Thanks for stopping by. I'll check your blog in a little bit.
Misfit, now that is a very astute observation. Sometimes lately, I almost forget he is the messiah.
Angel, I'll be dropping by in a bit hun.
Just so you know, America was NOT founded on Christian principles. The United States of America was founded by Deists, not Christians. The US became what you would call a "christian nation" when 'In God We Trust' was added to money in order to demonize the Soviet Union as atheist.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deist
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